LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER TRAINING

This area will include all of the agreements and other information relating to the LET program, the establishment of seniority, pay while in the program and any other issues that you may find relevant.  Please give me your input and suggestions - Local Chairman Curran

 

(7/26/01) Interpretation:  Fireman Seniority/Locomotive Engineer Training.  Since the effective date of the Conrail acquisition by Norfolk Southern (6/1/99) the process for selecting trainmen for Locomotive Engineer Training (LET) has been problematic.  On both prior railroads, LET’s were selected on the basis of their train service seniority.  The merger, however, placed all of the Conrail trainmen at the bottom of the NS seniority rosters, following the last-hired pre-merger NS trainman.  This would have effectively excluded former-Conrail trainmen from LET training for many years to come.  As an interim measure, the NS and the UTU (the UTU has jurisdiction in most aspects of this process) agreed to use the pre-merger seniority dates rather than roster standing.  This, however, created an unfair situation for the original-NS trainmen who didn’t establish seniority dates until they were marked up and working as conductors while the former-Conrail trainmen established a date when they took a pre-employment physical exam. 

 

Because comparing the establishment of train service seniority on the former-Conrail to the original-NS is like comparing apples with oranges, is quickly became apparent that a new system for selecting LET candidates would be required.

 

Interestingly enough, CSX anticipated this problem in the territories they acquired and addressed the issue in the pre-merger implementing agreements.  It wasn’t until after merger, however, in late 1999 that Norfolk Southern decided that some corrective action needed to be taken.  Because the UTU Agreements control the entry into LET training and the initial establishment of engine service seniority (at the bottom of the roster) they approached that organization to modify the existing NS Agreements. 

 

What they agreed to, to address the disparity in seniority dates between CR and NS, was that an order-of-selection list would be creating merging all trainmen who had yet to attend LET into a single roster that would govern the establishment of seniority.  While trainmen might still be selected out of turn dependent upon the needs at their particular location, those passed over would eventually regain their proper spot once they were qualified as engineers.  To this point, the BLE agreed.

 

Where the three sides parted way, however, was whether the bidding system would be replaced with an automatic assignment based upon seniority at the location (favored by BLE and NS, opposed by UTU) and whether a pre-1985 trainman could refuse LET training and continue to maintain his standing on the order-of-selection list (favored by NS and UTU, opposed by BLE).  Because the BLE Agreements provide for engineers to be rostered based upon a  “fireman’s standing”, established at the time they enter LET, we were given standing in this issue.  The UTU proposal would have allowed trainmen to continually reject LET for many years and then accept training and runaround hundreds of engineers who had ‘toiled’ in the craft for many years.  Three issues, therefore, were submitted to an arbitrator.

 

The arbitrator finally issued his ruling on September 9, 2000, ruling that:

·          An order-of-selection list would be created merging the CR and NS rosters (non-promoted trainmen only) for the purpose of selecting LET’s,

·          The bidding process would be eliminated and LET candidates at a location would be selected based on their standing on the order-of-selection list at the location and,

·          Pre-1985 trainmen who reject LET when called (post-1985’s do not have the right of refusal) would be dropped from the order-of-selection list.

 

If you think this put the entire issue to rest, think again!  When NS issued the order-of-selection list early in 2001 they made it retroactive until January 1, 2000, which had the effect of altering the seniority of engineers who had commenced training after that date.  The BLE protested asserting that the arbitration award should be effective only from the date it was rendered; September 9, 2000.  The issue was sent back to the arbitrator who ruled that January 1, 2000, was, indeed, the effective date. 

 

Copies of both awards and all associated correspondence are available if you would like to study this issue in more depth.  General Chairman Speagle has since advised that all seniority protests lodged as a result of this last dispute will be withdrawn in light of the arbitrator’s final ruling. 

 

(7/19/72) – Mediation Agreement, NMB Case A-9152.  This is the National Training Agreement that provided for the creation of the Engineer Training Programs (LET).  Prior to that date, firemen took a three-year series of examinations to become promoted as engineers.  Though this agreement applied, in 1972, to firemen only, today its’ application extends to trainmen who enter engine service.  Though several modifications have been agreed to in subsequent years, it still sets forth the basic framework of the training program. 

 

(10/31/85) Mediation Agreement, NMB Case A-11471.  Article XIII, Section 4, of this National Wage/Rule settlement put in place the final attrition of the fireman’s craft and designated the train service crafts as the sole source of supply for engine service.  Transfer to engine service for those hire October 31, 1985, or earlier remained voluntary.  For those hired on November 1, 1985, or later it could be required though each railroad had different rules.  Today, the assignment to engine service is governed by an arbitration award rendered just last year.

 

(11/29/89)This side letter established the ‘first six-month’ and second six-month’ period for pay purposes.  LET’s in the first six months of training, including the classroom phase at McDonogh, are paid a flat weekly rate which contemplates 48 hours of duty.  This rate is at 100%.  The rate progression, i.e. 75% through 95% does not apply.

 

In the second six-month period (clock this from the date you first start at McDonogh) you are paid at the fireman rate of pay for time and/or miles.  There is a weekly guarantee but the rate progression tables do apply.

 

(8/21/92) Two carrier letters applying and clarifying the above 1989 Letter of Agreement.

 

Payroll Guidelines for Locomotive Engineer Trainees

 

Our hats off to UTU General Chairman Jim Clark (NS-Southern) for his excellent work in composing this payroll primer.  We couldn’t have improved on it ourselves so we simply copied it.   

 

(2/14/05) Lake Region Hub LET Agreement - This is a form of trip rate for the LET negotiated by UTU General Chairman Strunk.